Curse

The milk shake · Jun 22, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49

I think its terribly ridiculous that certain *greedy* monks take advantage of the desperation of certain people in missions to find healing monks. Whenever i see Monk to hire, 10k for mission, pm, i just laugh...

Lady Kalvam · Jun 22, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09

Uhm? So what?
Why does it bother you? Besides it being obviously a joke (10 Plat

). You don't have to party with them, never ever. And they're not taking advantage of bad players (you know, because healer henchmen do the job just as well, sometimes even better), they're just playing the game their way.
Just like Drok Runners play the game their way, or people who MUST have completed every quest, every mission and every bonus...

RTSFirebat · Jun 22, 2006, 08:11 AM // 08:11

Well charging 10K is a bit expensive.

But I think hiring yourself out for 1-3K per mission is ok. Long as its not per person.

I've helped some lower level and newbie players in Ascalon before at a price. Its not that profitable and is fairly boring.

And at the end of the day the monks do it becasuse there is a demand for it. And we all need gold.

I don't agree with it however.

Gonzo · Jun 22, 2006, 08:20 AM // 08:20

They can hire themselves out all they want, but I won't want to be in a party with them. Nor with any monk that acts as though he's the most vital part of the team. But then again guildies > henchies > PUGs.

moko · Jun 22, 2006, 08:22 AM // 08:22

i have never seen any monks offering their services for money in a mission. if someone would do it, id be fairly sure that theyd leave right away, or just horrible suck at monking.

yes, theres a lack of monks in the missions, they all gone to farm. >_>

however, if people feel like doing it, why do you care? if they want to be that way, let them be that way. nobody forces you to pay them. its the same with any services in this game, if it is running, powerlvling, or whatever else.

maybe its more common on the american servers, but not on the european ones. =P

i doubt people would pay here anyways, they are all greedy. :/ i only received money for monking once, and that was in THK, the whole party payed me 1k because i stayed after they forgot to activate bonus.

(note that they paid me after, i did not request any money to stay

)

Silent Kitty · Jun 22, 2006, 09:02 AM // 09:02

At some parts in the game it's almost impossible to find an healer. On the other hand, my healer is in Hell's Precipe for ages now. It's almost impossible to find a good party, once you are further in the game. Personally, I wouldn't mind if hench outclassed the average player. Some people just think to much of themselves, and a little humiliation doesn't hurt.
Hench are always there and don't charge much. They simply insist on sharing the drops. Paying a healer is just plain stupid. Only noob monks fall for that. And those will benefit more from some green item.

Lets Get to Healing · Jun 22, 2006, 09:05 AM // 09:05

Monks can do this becuz some times they actually need the mission, and they can turn a profit by "helping".

Stupid Shizno · Jun 22, 2006, 09:13 AM // 09:13

I love going on my monk (his name is simmons) and help THK, or FoW...or really any mission i guess. (even factions) Since i have 8 lvl 20s (accounts) i guess after completing the game 8 times, killing stuff is meh....

If you ever need a monk (thats good too hehe) just Whisper Me (Stupid Shizno) and ask for Simmons....but make it funny, i prob will ignore you you say "I saw your thread on guru, i need monk in dunderhead". Something like "Hey mate! I need simmons for the win!" or "We Request Private Dick Class Simmons!"....or just tell me your a Red vs Blue fan, and ill come.

AlbinoChocobo · Jun 22, 2006, 09:29 AM // 09:29

On the other hand, go to the Granite Citadel, and watch those throngs of pre-op 55s desperately looking for a 'capping party' (for non-monks : Shield of Judgment is a vital elite for 55 builds, and can be capped in Mineral outside GC). I guess they'd pay to have a tank join them in their merry chase.

BTW, same comment as always, henchies will do it for you. A 6-monks party can sucessfully venture into the big great outdoors.

Cash · Jun 22, 2006, 10:45 AM // 10:45

i think any class charging for their "services" on a mission is down right rediculous .... unless said person is "running" the mission of course. im more than willing to pay when i can go afk or dance while i read guru on the other monitor, but to PAY for a monk to heal in a mission?!? ... no thanks and welcome to my block list bub.

and i totally agree about the granite citadel example. when i capped all the prophesy elites out in mineral with my warrior, i ended up going 4 times in a row to cap everything but flourish and SoJ. its pretty much the only time you see monks begging for a group. two times of the four i took a monk capper with me (didnt need them- henchies suffice out there for me) and explained i was just capping "x" but id also help them get SoJ. both times we ran into mr myd springclaw first (not the first boss, but first of the 2 caps) - the first guy thanked me immensely for the cap and proceeded to help me mow thru two more bosses until we got to mine. the second time the guy left me high and dry after his cap. wonder which of those more likely to be 55 farming all day or sitting in THK charging for his help?

Farmer · Jun 22, 2006, 11:02 AM // 11:02

People are greedy, and they have the right to be so. Overall, that is human's nature.

Monks have the right to ask for 10k for helping; you have the right to laugh at them......and most important of all, we all have the right to refuse to hire them. I don't see the problem with this.

Mr_T_bot · Jun 22, 2006, 11:07 AM // 11:07

Some monk in a group I was in yesterday was like "whoever pays me the most gets priority with heals." I told him he can go fornicate himself and I was kicked from the group. Go figure.

Farmer · Jun 22, 2006, 11:10 AM // 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot

Some monk in a group I was in yesterday was like "whoever pays me the most gets priority with heals." I told him he can go fornicate himself and I was kicked from the group. Go figure.

Haha, you should be happy about it. Is it better to stay in a group full of morons, or is it better to leave them without having to excuse yourself to bail out first? I'd never group with those guys.

CartmanPT · Jun 22, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16

If they were not charging they were probably be in some other place (UW or something), so just ignore them.

Its a service just like run or leveling, but just more useless.

mushi · Jun 22, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25

Monks can charge, well. In all honesty if i were to go back and help people do certain missions (like Iron mines, etc etc) i would ask for some sort of money, simply because i've done it and i need some money. But, i wouldn't charge a 10k fee, probably like 2-3k.

AlbinoChocobo · Jun 22, 2006, 11:40 AM // 11:40

Well, I'll beat on a dead and putrefied horse, but monk (excluding smiters) are a support class ; only certain persons will want to play that. The sad thing is, the ratio of actual monks in the player population is rather low (exclude all those purely farming Mo/W). What you're seeing is a fringe population playing a new money scheme ; I certainly hope it's not a durable mutation in the player base.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mushi

Monks can charge, well. In all honesty if i were to go back and help people do certain missions (like Iron mines, etc etc) i would ask for some sort of money, simply because i've done it and i need some money. But, i wouldn't charge a 10k fee, probably like 2-3k.

you could also build a 55/105/605hp monk, and farm for the gold you need. You'll make 2-3K in no time, and can go back to playing.

dr_james2k · Jun 22, 2006, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Mesmer to hire, I pay you 10k for mission, pm

demon dantes · Jun 22, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

Well i think most of the time when you see a monk for hire it is because he has had terrible experiences with groups for that mission. I know when i was in the deep the other night the warrior i was to protect in room 1 kept dying and i felt really bad but could not understand why this was. It wasn t until i noticed that he was using heal sig while fighting the kanaxai lol. Now he had already yelled at me and made me feel like chit,and i even gave him a cc free of charge. Once i found out he loved taking 400 pts of dmg it pissed me off.

Things like this happen to monks all the time. They get blamed for things or people dying and then boom all of a sudden you find out it was the other guys fault. It would seem to me when something goes wrong everyone and i mean EVERYONE blames the monks first.

I would never charge money to help out but i can see why some do,guess really it is no different then paying a tank to run you somewere. Or even getting pvp rank,3k per fame seems really steep to me when you have to fight in the battle as well. There are always going to be people charging for something it will never end.

Silent Kitty · Jun 22, 2006, 01:33 PM // 13:33

One the other hand; If you make people pay to join you, you find less rage quiters

Vahn Roi · Jun 22, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

My main character is a monk and even I'm ashamed of these people.